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Venice: Aboozar Amini discusses Kabul, Between Prayers

Interview by Nick Cunningham

The Dutch/Afghan filmmaker talks to SEE NL about his riveting new documentary film world-premiering in Venice - the second part of a planned trilogy - that immerses the audience in the daily life of a young Taliban solider and his teenage brother.


Still: Kabul, Between Prayers - Aboozar Amini

In Kabul, Between Prayers, world-premiering Out of Competition at Venice 2025, Samim may be a Taliban soldier who talks openly with colleagues about martyrdom, but he is nevertheless given a human face by director Aboozar Amini.

 Samim is a devoutly religious, as we see in a fascinating opening scene in which he prays to God for forgiveness, for faith and for his dead friends, but his marriage is in trouble. He is handsome, grooms his hair and wears kohl around his eyes, and goes about the business of keeping order on the streets of Kabul, both during the day and on night patrols. 

His younger brothers Elias and Rafi idolise him, especially Rafi, who is just 14 but a boy who dutifully talks the language of war and of “burning infidels,” but he is also a sweet lad who goes shy and giggly when asked if he has a crush on anyone.  

“As an artist, my foremost inclination is to transcend the impulse to condemn,” says Dutch/Afghan director Amini, “creating, instead, a space where observation can delve deeper than what populist politician dictates.”

Like his acclaimed first feature documentary film Kabul, City in the Wind (2018), Amini depicts his subjects without judgment, but for this film he has to do so remotely, from The Netherlands. as he cannot return to Afghanistan for reasons of safety. Every day he would lay out each scene with precision, and view the rushes sent to him from his cinematographer in Kabul, and react/direct accordingly. 

“My film depicts the effect of war on people,” Amini tells SEE NL. “Not only the war in Afghanistan, it's the war everywhere. War is not only destructive for cities, buildings, houses, hospitals and roads. It also destroys the souls of people generation after generation after generation.”

“And I, as a filmmaker, need to face this new chapter of my country which has a Taliban government. Either I turn my head around and look in the other direction, or press the button and record with all the limitations. I went for the latter one.”

Amini explains the process of remote direction, pointing out that it took 18 months to find a “tune” that worked with his cinematographer and protagonists, the whole thing set against the backdrop Kabul’s new reality. “It was really tough, intense. It was like walking in the darkness in the beginning, especially the first one and a half years. It was like finding ourselves in a dark room. We didn't know any direction because cinema is a strange medium to the Taliban. Once they see a man with a camera, it's a potential danger to them.”

But the constraints within which the filmmakers were working eventually proved to be a boon. “Usually, I see it like this, that limitations for an artist bring more creativity. When you have too many options, you can get lost. But when it's limited, your creativity starts - from camera movement to the placement of the camera, to organically following the protagonist, to understanding the protagonist, to giving them enough space to move, to insisting on freedom when shooting, to not giving up easily, to be daring, to crossing borders. Everything that, in my opinion, is necessary for a good film, for good storytelling, developed over this period.”

Despite the geographical distance between Amini and his protagonist Samim, there developed a sense of mutual accord. “It doesn't mean that I agree with him on his choices. And he also understood that there are differences between him and me. He once told me, ‘I know that you think differently about this subject. I do respect that. I've learned this from you during this process, that there is a different way of living as well in this world.’ That's a good sign. Because of this film, there was a common understanding between us.”

Amini doesn’t like the term “exile," as he has now lived more than half his life in Amsterdam. What’s more, he doesn’t profess to be an Afghan filmmaker, just a filmmaker, period, he tells SEE NL. That said, he dearly misses his former homeland and resents how he is denied access to it. “You deal with storytelling, and of course, access to a geographical place is a unique, valuable thing. Unfortunately, I don't have that now at the moment. And with a pain in my heart, I cannot return. The risk is too high. And this is not my choice.”

Jia Zhao, Amini’s long-time collaborator adds:  “My collaboration and friendship with Aboozar has lasted nearly 18 years. Over that time, we have learned that in a world mostly controlled by ideology and politics, telling a truthful story through cinema from another perspective often requires the courage to walk almost alone — yet it may be the only way for all of us to remain connected.”

“What I am especially grateful for this time is the many kindred spirits who joined us on this road, supporting and resonating with the work, and helping to give form to this deeply human film, a murmur of warning and a chant of humanity, asking viewers to look into the blurred space where fanaticism and tenderness co-exist.”

Director: Aboozar Amini
Festival: Venice